Discussion:
What is the name of your state? Ontario, Canada.
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I know many may not be familiar with Canadian laws, but neither am I, so just thought I'd check in case anyone knows.
We run a very large support forum, very much like this one "Free Advice", but related to health issues.
A new forum started, and we realized their forum content is word for word stolen from our forum posts. What's worse, is they also copied the poster names.
So to any observer, it will look like we gave them our database content, to mirror our forum. But one difference is that the poster names appear as "guest" accounts.
i.e., all my posts made to our forum, show up under my name on their forum, but I have no access to my account on their forum, and cannot edit or delete these posts.
We have contacted them by phone, and they claim it's just a coincedence, and they are not prepared to delete what their "guests" have posted, or the names they chose to post under!!!!
I'm assuming their "guest" account, is to avoid identifying who's copying our posts, and can't be made to reveal any info on those guests, as they have no accounts on their forum.
Next step was to contact their host, which turned out to be served from their own home, through a DSL connection.
So we contacted the ISP, who said they cannot do anything, unless ordered by a court.
Any insight on this? Our site is not a business, so we cannot afford a full blown law suit, maybe a couple of hundred dollars from my pocket, but not more. So are we helpless to do anything?
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My response:
If you can't afford to exercise any rights that you might have under the law, then what do you expect us to tell you?
First, anything we would tell you would be based upon U.S. law, which may or may not be applicable to Canadian law. Second, even if we knew the law that's applicable, you don't have the capability to do anything with it, anyway.
So, basically, your post amounts to a "I need to bitch about my problem" type post.
IAAL
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If you can't afford to exercise any rights that you might have under the law, then what do you expect us to tell you?
First, anything we would tell you would be based upon U.S. law, which may or may not be applicable to Canadian law. Second, even if we knew the law that's applicable, you don't have the capability to do anything with it, anyway.
So, basically, your post amounts to a "I need to bitch about my problem" type post. Well, bitching sometimes makes one feel better.
However, hiring a lawyer is not allways the required solution to 100% of the cases. Some ISP's are obligated to certain standards of conduct, from what I've read.
My post was an attempt to find out if there are other options. I take you say "no", which is fine, and I appreciate you taking the time to sat so.
BTW, is this a U.S. only forum?
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[quote]Originally posted by tamarian
BTW, is this a U.S. only forum?
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My response:
Read Rule #2, above.
IAAL
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Yep, that settles it.
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Originally posted by tamarian
Yep, that settles it.
My response:
Actually, it was "settled" long before your wrote your initial post.
Remember this?
"What is the name of your state? Ontario, Canada."
Since when did Canada have "States"? In your zeal to write, you ignored the obvious.
IAAL
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Originally posted by I AM ALWAYS LIABLE
My response:
Actually, it was "settled" long before your wrote your initial post.
Remember this?
"What is the name of your state? Ontario, Canada."
Since when did Canada have "States"? In your zeal to write, you ignored the obvious.
IAAL Not really, that question was answered, and then clarified in my first paragraph.
So it wasn't ignored, it was elaborated on.
I don't know what's your problem, if it bothers you so much, please feel free to delete it. If you're not a moderator, request it be removed by a moderator, and you have my full permission to make such a request, and no objection to delete.
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[quote]Originally posted by tamarian
[b]Not really, that question was answered, and then clarified in my first paragraph.
MY RESPONSE: First, you fail to read the rules, and then you have the temerity to come back with an excuse. You either can't read, or you made a conscious decision to ignore our rules.
So it wasn't ignored, it was elaborated on.
MY RESPONSE: Yes, it was ignored. You just made the decision that our Rules don't apply to you, or you just decided to somehow excuse yourself with some ****eyed reason for the obvious mistake you made in not reading in the first place. Had you read the rules, and understood them, I'm sure you would never have posted in the first place.
I don't know what's your problem
MY RESPONSE: My problem is Canadians who refuse to read. You're not the first. Does Canada have an education curriculum beyond fourth grade reading and comprehension skills? Canadians seem to do what you did quite a bit.
if it bothers you so much, please feel free to delete it.
MY RESPONSE: No, I'll let it stand. It's a good lesson for those who CAN read, and follow directions.
IAAL
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" You just made the decision that our Rules don't apply to you,"
"good lesson for those who CAN read,"
LOL, I don't know how old you are, so I'll overlook your childish language, but the official rules are posted here:
Top of the page usually gets ignored as internet surfers tend to ignore that regeon as banners etc..
So if you are the owner of this forum, you might want to edit the forum rules page, where members click "agree" on.
Have a good one.
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Originally posted by tamarian
" You just made the decision that our Rules don't apply to you,"
"good lesson for those who CAN read,"
LOL, I don't know how old you are, so I'll overlook your childish language, but the official rules are posted here:
Top of the page usually gets ignored as internet surfers tend to ignore that regeon as banners etc..
So if you are the owner of this forum, you might want to edit the forum rules page, where members click "agree" on.
Have a good one.
My response:
Impressive - - you can copy and paste! And, on top of that, you want to tell us how to arrange our site!
But, with all those talents, YOU STILL CAN'T READ!
Amazing, and incredible.
But, like I said before, you just made the decision that our Rules don't apply to you, or you just decided to somehow excuse yourself with some ****eyed reason for the obvious mistake you made in not reading in the first place. Had you read the rules, and understood them, I'm sure you would never have posted in the first place.
IAAL
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So you can read well, you say, but how about counting? Past #2?
If the registration agreement doesn't count,fine, try to read past #2 from the top of the page. Or ask an adult or a forum moderator to help you.
Happy freedom fries to you IAAL from Canada!
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My response:
No wonder someone else is copying your site. They'll probably do a better job with it.
Hasta Luego, Canada! And, learn to read.
IAAL
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Well done. You'll make a good lawyer one day.
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Originally posted by tamarian
Well done. You'll make a good lawyer one day.
My response:
. . . and you never will. You see, we lawyers know how to read.
IAAL
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Good for you IAAL.